I did not know that - thanks for this nugget of information!Deweyrules! said:I'm going to make myself look like a simple idiot, but to get to a more basic level of looking at the eppisode- did anyone notice, the final shot, i.e. the satelite image of the earth, was the same one used in the very first eppisode. I know useless and probably a waste of posting space, but ah well, never mind
I actually agree with you. She didn't completely tame Francis. There were many things that lead to him getting his act together. I do think she played a part, though. I think Francis might still be getting into trouble every now and then if he didn't have a wife. We can't really be sure how much of a part Lois played in the taming of Hal, either. Maybe they will have a flashback to explain it someday.yardgames said:So you think that Piama tamed Francis? That's interesting, because I always thought it was a combination of Lavernia and Otto, and actually growing up and working.
Would it help if i changed my username? I'm not sure how to do it exactly, but I was considering 'Ragina_Tucker' - From the episode 'Hal Quits', i thought that would make a good username.yardgames said:Dewey (the forum member (this is gonna, get confusing, isn't it?))
I think we can probably survive, after all its a pretty cool username to have If you really want to change it just PM me and I can change it for youDewey said:Would it help if i changed my username? I'm not sure how to do it exactly, but I was considering 'Ragina_Tucker' - From the episode 'Hal Quits', i thought that would make a good username.
With Freud, you have to be careful not to take him too seriously. He's fine if you take a more general, philosophical meaning as Dewey (VC member) did. But once you get down to the specifics (Oedipus and Electra complexes, etc.) it gets really bizzare. I too tend to disregard Freud because I had heard the more resonable, philosophical, filtered meanings earlier through other sources.Garbage Kills Megan said:Freud's theories about how men fall in love with people just like their mother is very well known, but I have to say that I don't take much stock in it.
Again, I think this is a situation where you have to take Freud on a more figurative level. I think Reese's attraction to young Lois stems not as much from his view of Lois as the ideal wife/mother but rather from the fact that he's grown up around her and has had his thought shaped by her. Lois deems certain characteristics/values important. Consequently, she tries to embody them, and as the primary caretaker, she instills these values/priorities in her children.Dewey said:The attraction for a [younger version of] mother figure is both realistic and idealistic. Its something that all men (albeit unconsciously) seek. This is evident in that married women eventually take on household roles that the mothers did in order to serve their husbands and may also become mothers themselves.
Yes, I completely agree. In fact, that was my answer to the analysis thread yardgames was reffering to. Things that we notice at a deeper level about the show are more often that not ironies in life itself, not the show in particular. So, we don't really have to worry about whether or not the writers thought of that.Garbage Kills Megan said:I don't think Freud's theories were more than possibly an afterthought, though it is interesting to see how they apply. There are a lot of theories and trends that you can see represented in Malcolm, as former members have shown in their posts. Personally, I think it is because those theories are based on life, and so is Malcolm in the Middle.
I don't think Piama tamed Francis as much as that she is the reason he is tame i.e. it's indirect. People are willing to take a lot more risks with themselves than with others. Francis would have no objections to putting himself in danger. But now, he risks endangering (physically and emotionally) Piama. So, he'd be more cautious. Also, Piama's presence prevents him from just running when the situation becomes difficult. He has to stay in the same place because she's there.yardgames said:So you think that Piama tamed Francis? That's interesting, because I always thought it was a combination of Lavernia and Otto, and actually growing up and working.